fluff Wrote:
My appologies if the concept of this project is looked upon as some obsurd way to increase sales, it truely isn't.
I personally do not care if psix is free or not, as the page says i'm not making any money off of it anyway, i have done as i said i would and spent my share on starting out developers, they're free to come forward and confirm this if they wish.
The inclusion of ps2dev.org in the pdr page was mean't out of respect for your work, if you wish it can be removed, if you guys would like to benefit from the project you can, as other developers do, use the email on the page and request resources, such as books, etc.
One of the things the pdr project does not do, is provide cold cash to developers, so "offering us any funds" is a moot point.
Chasing around other developers offering them support is neither fair nor useful, after all you guys already know your stuff, the pdr project is to help people who are starting out, or working on their abilities.
Though im really hating repeating myself, the membership fee for psix is much like MSDN in that for membership you are given access to early, often unstable beta versions, direct support and the ability to directly influence the software with your own ideas.
If anything the idea to charge for this service was a good one as it's resulted in a relatively active forum of people who truly support our work, and we can get realtime feedback on updates we make without having to trawl through the flames and useless posts.
In the end people have the choice to join up and test things when theyre added, or wait until the pubic builds are updated with stable updates, theres no forcing at all.
As for charging for software built with your tools, do you see black and decker having someone walk up to a bedroom fitter and asking him for some money for using their tools?
does a child put his name on a friends drawing because he borrowed him the red crayon?, no.
While i do understand it isn't about the cash for you but the respect for your work, there isn't much we can do other than throw money at you for the joy of using it.
TheMan wrote:
1) More like 10$ per PSP. Even people with two or more PSPs and who purchased a membership, they must pay another 10$ if they plan on using it on another one of their PSPs.
The mac lockout is to minimise the risk of bad things happening to our users, the beta is just that, a beta.
If there was no mac locking, chances are high that it would be passed around to everyone, and if something in the code was wrong and/or dangerous to the psp itself, i'd much rather have a handfull of people with psp's that need replacing then angry emails from hundreds who shouldnt even have it.
Accounts are limited to one mac address per account to save the headache of people who may wish to abuse it and get friends beta copies without our knowledge.
While on the same subject, when the very tools we use to create psix, are used to enable piracy and theft, i somehow doubt it will be you guys standing in front of sony saying "take us to court too, they built it on our tools after all".
These forums, and almost all of the code used for every exploit, iso loader, and boot loader, originated from posted code snippets here, it would be nice if you guys would take some responsibility too, by at the very least holding your hands up to being the main resource for the parasitic pirate software, though i doubt you'd want to because that's not your fault right?,
It's none of your business what those guys do with your code since it's available to everyone right?, so why when we pour our time and effort into providing a great application and great support for it, does it become your business?, "because you're selling the software", well that's sort of true, we are selling access to betas, now lets go ask a local games company how much money they lost to iso loaders!.. are you getting my point now?
zx-81 Wrote:J'ai pas suivi toute l'histoire, mais il semble que Fluff fasse payer l'acces au forum (et pas donc pas le logiciel en particulier, meme si l'obtention du binaire est conditionné par l'inscription au forum).
Tu trouveras ici le detail de pas mal de licences :
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/
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